@joacim-n-linder
Matter bridge on home assistant would bridge home assistant controllable devices as matter devices to Flic. But that is oppposite of what would be useful. I have hard time seeing Flic being used as the "center of the home automation" when you have Home Assistant. So Flic hub would need to be the matter bridge, not the controller.
@Emil
People who have gone Home Assistant path want to use it for their home control, not Flic app. Other apps, such as Flic app, is something they want to get rid. Home Assistant is growing fast and there is a good reason for it - controlling your smart home has become way too spread out and complicated without something like HA.
People who have Alexa already have Matter controller there, they just want to see the buttons. People who have Google ecosystem already have a matter controller. They too just want to see the buttons. Same with Homekit. Needing anoother controller and app doesn't really work as reasoning as everyone having any kind of smart home setup already have them.
I can understand the Matter controller path regarding the Twist - it's a pain that Matter doesn't support these kind of products properly yet. But being your own controller is, in the end, a patch for promises made before. I don't think Alexa, Google, Homekit nor Home Assistant users are looking forward to having another ecosystem around to complicate what they want to simplify. And I think lack of enthusiasm for flic's Matter release tells the same story.
Could be wrong, maybe sales are up like crazy. But it doesn't look like that from stupid users point of view.
I understand that Flic has taken approach where Flic is the center of the home, the opera conductor as you say, and you use it's interface to program all of your home. So far it seems Matter (beta) only exists to make the Hub a matter controller like you have told, it doesn't work as a matter bridge - something that would solve / would have solved Home Assistant, Alexa and Google support and, to be honest, would more of create a connected home instead of isolated islands. Flic just isn't the ecosystem to be the "center of the smart home" in todays smart homes of a hundred of connected devices.
Thus I ask - is the plan in the near future, this year, to bring in a way or another Flic devices discoverable to Home Assistant and/or Alexa?
@eirikaaltvedtf
Sounds simple, but these are actually hard cases for Flic. Using the hub is quite a limiting factor, as is executing commands on PC coming from cloud. Using the flic hub, you cannot achieve this without creating some external actions.
There are some utilities for Windows that have been designed for this. For example TRIGGERcmd has quite a simple setup with ready made IFTTT applet you could use, I think more advanced and requiring a bit more setup would be AssistantComputerControl; it might overall be a better solution if you have other smart home devices.
For the phone it's enough that you download and "always run" IFTTT app there.
You can with smallish effort accomplish this using Home Assistant, I don't think Flic app nor IFTTT can do this as they would have to know what your Sonos is doing when you execute the action. If it doesn't matter what was happening before the button press, then IFTTT and for example Alexa can be used for this.
@Emil
People who have gone Home Assistant path want to use it for their home control, not Flic app. Other apps, such as Flic app, is something they want to get rid. Home Assistant is growing fast and there is a good reason for it - controlling your smart home has become way too spread out and complicated without something like HA.
People who have Alexa already have Matter controller there, they just want to see the buttons. People who have Google ecosystem already have a matter controller. They too just want to see the buttons. Same with Homekit. Needing anoother controller and app doesn't really work as reasoning as everyone having any kind of smart home setup already have them.
I can understand the Matter controller path regarding the Twist - it's a pain that Matter doesn't support these kind of products properly yet. But being your own controller is, in the end, a patch for promises made before. I don't think Alexa, Google, Homekit nor Home Assistant users are looking forward to having another ecosystem around to complicate what they want to simplify. And I think lack of enthusiasm for flic's Matter release tells the same story.
Could be wrong, maybe sales are up like crazy. But it doesn't look like that from stupid users point of view.
To have even remotely reliable system you would need Flib hub. But I wouldn't trust that setup for medical emergencies, especially as a medical emergency button also needs a compatible service partner of human assistance.
@joacim-n-linder
Matter bridge on home assistant would bridge home assistant controllable devices as matter devices to Flic. But that is oppposite of what would be useful. I have hard time seeing Flic being used as the "center of the home automation" when you have Home Assistant. So Flic hub would need to be the matter bridge, not the controller.
I understand that Flic has taken approach where Flic is the center of the home, the opera conductor as you say, and you use it's interface to program all of your home. So far it seems Matter (beta) only exists to make the Hub a matter controller like you have told, it doesn't work as a matter bridge - something that would solve / would have solved Home Assistant, Alexa and Google support and, to be honest, would more of create a connected home instead of isolated islands. Flic just isn't the ecosystem to be the "center of the smart home" in todays smart homes of a hundred of connected devices.
Thus I ask - is the plan in the near future, this year, to bring in a way or another Flic devices discoverable to Home Assistant and/or Alexa?
@Emil said in Any News on Flic Twist updates:
Not sure what 5 minute wait you are referring to?
There is a 5 minute wait before you can "post again" on the forum.
@Emil said in Any News on Flic Twist updates:
@steveff Our Matter integration is just around the corner.
Well this is good news. Are we talking weeks or months?
BTW, the 5 minute wait after helping someone out on another thread is quite annoying.
There's no official ingration like you know, but you can get the button press working with webhooks.
Create a Webhook in Home Assistant
Go to your Home Assistant instance.
Navigate to Configuration -> Automations and create a new automation.
Set up a trigger type as "Webhook."
Define a unique webhook ID, e.g., flic_button_press.
Connect he button with Flic App
Open the Flic app and select your Flic Hub.
Choose the Flic button you want to configure.
Add an action, select "Internet Request."
Set the method to POST.
Enter the URL of your webhook: http://homeassistant:8123/api/webhook/flic_button_press
Replace URL homeassistant with the IP address or hostname of your Home Assistant instance if this doesn't work. Ensure your Home Assistant instance allows requests from your Flic Hub.
It works inst most environments, you only need to do the webhooks once on the Flic App and after that you control it from HA. You do not get disovery or sensor data (like battery), only the button presses of different types (if you do own hook for each).
@Emil You still claim HomeKit support on the Kickstarter page, starting from year 2022. Saying just because you asked where do you exactly say it.
It is under umbrella of the "Matter". Overall both advertising and language is often in line of "control every aspect of Your Smart Home", which might be a bit misleading in the Apple world.
Listen Emil, think a lot of people's upsetness about lack of integration supports could be handled by openly telling where the progress is going. You for example blog about sustainability, but I think waaay bigger part of the customer base would like to hear some progress reports on the Home Assistant, Matter, etc. support development. Game devs have been doing this since digital delivery and people actually are really good at waiting as long as they can see the queue in front of them.